The Work of Warriors

Kim Rapach (00:02.006)
Hello everybody. I am really excited for today's guest. She and I met online on Instagram, somehow, you know, the magic algorithms. Our paths crossed, she is a coach and her and I became fast friends. Our values are very much in alignment as coaches, as entrepreneurs, as women, and as humans. And so I'm so excited to introduce you,

Kim Rapach (00:34.902)
I'm so excited to introduce to you Kristen Peltier. She is a coach and the founder of SAPE.

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She is the founder of Safe Harbor Coaching and is certified trauma and addiction and betrayal.

Kim Rapach (01:07.778)
She is the founder of Safe Harbor Coaching and certified in trauma and addiction, including relationship betrayal trauma.

Kim Rapach (01:32.462)
Kristen is a compassionate, spiritual, music-loving human with experience and a background in the music industry as well as national security. I think you're gonna enjoy this conversation. She developed Safe Harbor Coaching after experiencing and witnessing firsthand the despair that comes from addiction, relationship betrayal, and trauma.

Kim Rapach (02:12.374)
This ensued Kristen's passion for supporting those living in this reality.

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Kristen's passion has always been music and she brings with her over 25 years of working in the music industry

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witnessing the heavy toll of the life within the entertainment industry.

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as well as her deep understanding of the inner workings of the industry, as well as her understanding of the inner workings of the industry.

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have uniquely positioned her to offer support to those experiencing chaos, spiritual depletion, addiction, relationship stress, and betrayal and trauma.

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Kristen is a certified mindful, no. Kristen is a certified mind rebel coach, no. Academy coach. Kristen is a certified mind rebel academy coach.

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and practices a method that is built on the pillars of community, truth, courage, and impact. Please welcome Kristen Peltier.

Kim Rapach (04:26.69)
Today's guest is Kristen Peltier, founder of Safe Harbor Coaching, and she is certified in trauma, addiction, as well as betrayal trauma.

Kim Rapach (04:40.11)
Kristen is compassionate, friendly, kind, spiritual, and music loving, so you're gonna love her.

Kim Rapach (04:50.747)
No. Kristin is compassionate, spiritual, and music-loving with a diverse background in the music industry as well as national security.

Kim Rapach (05:01.654)
She developed Safe Harbor coaching after witnessing and experiencing the deep trauma and stress and betrayal, and betrayal of self even that can happen within the entertainment industry. This is not at all what I wanna say.

Kim Rapach (05:26.186)
I'm excited to introduce a dear friend, the founder of...

Kim Rapach (05:33.938)
I am excited to introduce today's guest. She is one of my newest friends. Her name is Kristen, and she is the founder of Safe Harbor. No, her name's not Kristen.

I'm excited to introduce our guest today. She is a dear friend. Her name is Kristen Peltier, and she is the founder of Safe Harbor Coaching. She is certified in trauma and addiction, including relationship betrayal trauma.

Kim Rapach (06:09.878)
She and I met on Instagram, thanks to the algorithm gods, if you will. We just crossed paths and realized very quickly that our methodology and coaching as well as our values and our boundaries just as humans were very much aligned. She is compassionate and spiritual. She's a music lover.

Kim Rapach (06:50.026)
She developed safe harbor coaching after witnessing firsthand the deep level of despair and stress that can happen from addiction, relationship betrayal, and trauma. And that ensued her passion for helping those who are currently living in that painful reality.

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Kristen's passion has always been music, and she brings with her 25 years of experience within the industry.

Kim Rapach (07:32.11)
Kristen's passion has always been music, and she brings with her over 25 years of entertainment industry.

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Kristin's passion has always been music, and she brings with her over 25 years of experience of working within the entertainment industry. Music industry. Kristin's passion has always been music, and she brings with her over 25 years of experience working within the music industry.

Kim Rapach (08:24.082)
witnessing the heavy toll that this industry can have on people and its artists, and also having a deep understanding of what happens within a person, really set her up to serve well those that are still living with that painful reality, who are still navigating the stress, the betrayal, perhaps addiction, but she knows her stuff. She's been there and she is

Kim Rapach (09:05.77)
witnessing the heavy toll that this industry can have on people and its artists, as well as a deep understanding of how the music industry works.

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have uniquely positioned Kristen to be able to offer support and coaching to those who are still living.

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and working and working.

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within a life of chaos, spiritual depletion, relationship betrayal and addiction.

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Kristen is a certified Mind Rebel Academy coach.

and practices a method that is built on the pillars of community, truth, courage, and impact. Welcome Kristen Peltier.

Kim Rapach (10:50.51)
That made me laugh. You're hilarious. I can't wait to talk. I'm pretty much ready just sitting here, sipping on my coffee and getting some stuff done, but I'll, I'll... Do you want me to sign on early? I can't remember. I should, I'm going to go back and read what you wrote here.

Hey, so I'm looking for the Riverside link and I'm just seeing Zoom links. It says you're gonna send it right before, but did you already send it? I'm looking, let me know.

Kim Rapach (11:27.418)
I'm so sorry, I had it all queued up and I thought I sent it and I was just sitting here looking at myself and I was like, I wonder where she is. She's so prompt. And then I looked, I'm like, it's still sitting there. So I just sent it.

Kristin (12:25.719)
Can you hear me? Hi! Hi, friend. How are you?

Kim Rapach (12:26.81)
I can, hi. Hi, friend. Oh man, I'm so good. I'm so happy to see you. Thank you for being here. Thank you for making time for this. I'm so excited to have this conversation.

Kristin (12:41.003)
Yeah, me too. I can't wait. Is it cool to have coffee? Like, is that taboo?

Kim Rapach (12:43.245)
We've.

No, I just can't have too much because it hijacks my nervous system. But I have my water, you're good. You could have a snack.

Kristin (12:53.335)
There we go. I can't even stack.

done many podcasts so I'm still you know figuring out what's uh what's cool and what's not.

Kim Rapach (13:03.186)
So here's what I think. I think people need less perfection. I think we've had enough polished, we've had enough perfection, we've had enough trauma on the other side of that perfection where I think people just wanna know that people who are there to help, people who are quote unquote successful, influencers, I think we all just wanna know like you're real, right? You're a real person. So have your coffee.

Kristin (13:05.226)
Okay.

Hmm.

Kristin (13:28.331)
Oh yeah.

Kim Rapach (13:29.91)
Have your snack, just maybe not take a nap right now. We'll save that piece. But yeah, have your coffee for sure. So you have experience with both, a lot of experience within music industry, but also national security. And so I was wondering if you would just tell our listeners, what does that mean? How does that happen? Paint us a little visual of.

Kristin (13:35.141)
Okay.

Kristin (13:46.496)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Kristin (13:55.147)
No.

Kim Rapach (13:57.354)
Just whatever you're comfortable sharing or how brief or extended you want to be, but how did you go from one to the other? It sounds like you would have had to have done both at the same time at some point.

Kristin (14:06.687)
Oh yeah, so, you know, along with a lot of artists, a lot of people who, you know, just love music, it's like something, it's almost like you're born with it, right, it's like in your DNA. And I grew up my whole life wanting music and knowing music was supposed to be a part of my life. But you know, I grew up in a very...

traditional strict household where I guess in a way I was sort of the black sheep of the family, you know, and with all due respect to my wonderful parents who just really wanted to make sure that I could make a living for myself, right? So I was, you know, I was 17 years old when I snuck backstage at this massive festival here in Ottawa and that is something

I just never in my whole life would have ever even considered doing. And I don't know what came over came over me. All of a sudden, I'm standing there with my best friend and we realized, oh my gosh, backstage is just right there. We, with our little backpacks crawled over and under cement blocks and popped up. And there were like 30 tour buses lined up in a row. And we're like, what are we going to do now? Let's pretend we're journalists. Okay. We were very young.

So we go up to the first bus and we knock on the door and Chantelle Kraviasic, I don't know if you know her, she's Canadian. She's a piano player. Okay. She's a big deal in Canada. She answers the door and I was a huge fan of her and she was not playing the festival. So she was, as it turns out, in the beginning of a relationship with Rain Maida, who's now her husband, who's the lead singer of Our Ladypiece. And thus began.

Kim Rapach (15:39.082)
I don't, okay?

Kim Rapach (15:43.694)
Okay.

Kristin (16:00.891)
our whole, my whole journey. They were so wonderful. They gave us interviews. We sat on the pavement in front of the bus. And when it was, yeah, all we had in our backpack was, was like, like school notepads and pencils. And so we just sat, we asked questions, we wrote and you know, that Catholic guilty conscience inside me when we were done, I remember I looked at her and I said,

Kim Rapach (16:08.65)
believing you were journalists.

Kristin (16:28.887)
I got to admit something, I'm not actually a journalist. And she said, honey, she said, you are who you say you are. And she went and knocked on the other tour buses and we walked away with about 12 interviews from huge, huge Canadian bands at the time. And...

Kim Rapach (16:47.522)
Wow, I have goosebumps. I've never heard this story. That's amazing.

Kristin (16:51.259)
Yeah, well, you and I are still getting to know each other too, right? So this began this began my journey in the music industry where we actually turned all these interviews into a street zine. I don't know if you've ever heard of a street zine back then. That was like pre computers, right? It was pre blogs. It was pretty everything. So we got sponsors. We we had physical copies that a lot of the record stores would distribute for us. And

Kim Rapach (16:54.207)
I know.

Kristin (17:21.103)
You know, as those as I continued to interview artists, really, and as my confidence grew and I got to really understand the way the music industry worked, I gained the courage to step outside of just interviewing. And I became an independent booking agent. And then eventually, I started managing. So all of this is going on, you know, kind of at a crazy time because

And when 9-11 happened, my father was working for national security. He had my whole life. And I was actually working at a record label. I had been hired by a local businessman to start a local record label called Boulder Records and my whole, uh, just like the whole world, right? I was shook and I was all of a sudden, it was like my innocence in a way was gone. And.

I just knew I wanted to help. I didn't know how, but I applied and I got in. And, you know, it served to be a very good career. You know, it was financially stable. I was great at my job, but it's the government. And, you know, I know, you're American and we work differently. We work alongside each other. You know, I was, we were.

you know, all our five I's, you know, we, FBI, CIA, we would all work together. But over time, like I couldn't shake, like my soul was continuously being drawn back to music. So I balanced both for about 20 years. And the last two bands that I worked with both ended in the same way with, you know, we were just on the brink.

you know, just at that point where I was considering quitting my job in the government to pursue and manage full time when everything fell apart because of really serious mental health issues and addiction issues. Uh, the last band that I worked with, we actually opened for Bon Jovi. And I was like, this is it. You know, my whole body felt it. Like, this is where I belong. This is what I'm meant to do. And then when it became clear that.

Kristin (19:49.547)
The ban just couldn't continue. It's a heartbreak. So I stepped away at that point and went back, not went back, but decided I'm gonna reinvest myself into the government and protecting Canada. And then COVID hit and shut everything down and made me reevaluate my priorities. And...

And that's, you know, as you know, COVID really decimated the entertainment and music industry. And I saw so many of my friends struggle financially. You know, they couldn't support their families. Addiction-wise, alcoholism went right through the roof. And I thought, you know what, maybe I'm doing this wrong. Maybe I'm supposed to be helping from the other side. And that's when I...

got into coaching and kind of intertwined my two loves of helping people, you know, being surrounded by music and I officially left the government. I officially quit. So I am doing this full time, which is just crazy, but so fun. Yeah.

Kim Rapach (21:08.253)
My gosh, I love that story and to get hammered by two major history making events within you know your career. Yeah.

Kristin (21:17.039)
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And just like in life, right? Like this generation has had to go through so much.

Kim Rapach (21:21.901)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (21:26.238)
Yeah, yeah, it's fascinating. Well, you know, the work of warriors is, you know, warrior is someone who intentionally fights for themselves first, right? And I hear you doing that and I know that you do that. And I know we've had a lot of conversations about that, but it's so fitting that you said when that artist, you know, after talking to you said, honey, you are who you say you are. And I think that's so important and fits so well in the work that we do.

because you and I work with so many people and artists and people who are, you know, in the public eye, very successful, right? I always say successful. Successful in their career, but struggling emotionally, feeling shame, feeling like they don't, you know, they don't know what they're doing or that they're not worth it. Or when they really make it big, they have so much imposter syndrome, they just have so much shame. Like, I don't belong here, I don't deserve this, I don't know how this happened. When it's truly what...

Kristin (22:05.727)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (22:25.174)
they not only desire, but they're meant to do. And when people fight for themselves and they look in the mirror and they believe that they're worthy of the life they dream of, you have to be who you say you are and you have to love yourself, right? And so that story is, I'm a journalist, you are who you say you are and you got to go forward with that. But like, imagine if our artists could look in the mirror and say,

Kristin (22:40.288)
Oh yeah.

Kristin (22:46.71)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (22:51.346)
I am worthy. I love myself. If all this goes away tomorrow, I know I did my best. I know I'm worthy to be here in this industry.

Kristin (22:56.401)
Oh.

Yeah, I know. It's, you know, worthiness and self-love is not anything that we're taught. You know, unfortunately, there are things that are kind of forced upon us when we're already beaten down. And, you know, especially, you know, I was raised, like I said, in a very traditional home, a Catholic home, and, you know, all...

Kim Rapach (23:16.118)
Yeah.

Kristin (23:28.595)
and I'm a very spiritual person, but I was very much raised like obey your parents, forgive your neighbors, love God. But I was never taught, forgive yourself, love yourself. You know, you are worthy of your, you know, like these were things that I learned much later in life and I just feel is like a gap. It's like missing in our, even in our educational system.

Kim Rapach (23:54.847)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Kristin (23:58.943)
Because if you can't, then I mean, let's just look at mental illness, right? And mental health and the shame and everything. But if you can, if you, I shouldn't say if, but when I get the chance to sit with people and challenge their perspective on that, it's life-changing. Like you see lights go off, or go on, I should say. You see the lights go on, not go off.

Kim Rapach (24:20.914)
Yeah. Right. Yeah. The light that's been dimmed finally comes back on, right? Because those are old tapes that are telling you those are old memories, old voices, someone else's voice, a teacher, a parent, someone on the playground who told you something, right? The pivotal, you know, people say, well, what is trauma? Who has trauma? Everybody has trauma, right? But significantly it's, I think when we understand that it's an event that made us shift.

Kristin (24:29.014)
Yeah.

Kristin (24:34.336)
Yeah.

Kristin (24:38.742)
Yeah.

Kristin (24:43.776)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Rapach (24:51.562)
Right? It caused a shift in our nervous system, in our belief about ourself, in our belief about the world, relationships, men, women, whatever. And when you can realize where you made that shift and where you, where your light went out, it can come back on.

Kristin (24:58.911)
Yeah.

Kristin (25:07.405)
Yes. Oh, I just got goosebumps. This happens. And I have super hairy arms. So like, that's, that's when I coach too, you know, and when I know something is meant for someone, it's like, I get that, yeah, that there we go.

Kim Rapach (25:09.654)
Yeah, me too.

Kim Rapach (25:19.042)
Could feel it. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's, I think it's that connection, you know? Yeah. So I guess I would ask what, I mean, I know this story, but what is it about you that caused you to make a shift internally to be able to have this passion for artists?

Kristin (25:27.051)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kristin (25:45.92)
Hmm.

Kim Rapach (25:46.09)
You know, to go into coaching, like, what was that like? Because you obviously probably went through some coaching of your own. Yeah.

Kristin (25:53.115)
I did, yes. And I just, I actually just had a discovery call right, right before we hopped on with a client. He asked me the same question. And so, so I, I stuttered through it a bit with him, but so everything that I've said, you know, everything that I, you know, I've told you how I, how I landed here, what I haven't shared. And I don't know if I've actually, if you and I have even talked about this in our

previous chats, but addiction does run in my family. And my husband has battled addiction his whole life. It was something I didn't learn about until after we were married. Because we were we met, we met, we were engaged after three months, and we were married nine months later. Very quick, very normal in the religious world.

You know, we weren't allowed to be alone in a room together even, you know? So we didn't have a whole lot of time to really get to know each other. Um, and marriage was just the acceptable thing to do, not to downplay it. I was so, I, you know, so in love, but things became, um, messy very quickly. And, and we did, we went through a lot of trauma together. We, um, uh, lost our first child. Uh.

Kim Rapach (27:02.346)
Sure.

Kim Rapach (27:18.315)
Mm.

Kristin (27:18.987)
during birth and we, you know, we had to cope with that. And we were so young and we did not have the coping mechanisms. And I just started to realize something isn't right. You know, they say marriage is hard, but like, how hard is it? How hard is it really? It's not supposed to be that hard. And then it did come out about, about a year and a half, two years into our marriage.

his addiction issues came out. So something that I have just been, you know, in the throes of, for, well, we'll be married 18 years this December, but separated many times on the brink of divorce, a few times. And really what, what

drove me into this area of wanting to help and support people who are, who have addiction issues and also beyond like partners of addicts was just all the work and all the leg work I had to do to figure out what am I dealing with? What does he need? Especially when my entire community is religious and it's and they were very much like pray about it. Go see this priest. Go see this

Kim Rapach (28:34.862)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (28:44.047)
No amount of prayer is going to cure your addiction. You like, there is science behind this, you know? And a couple of years ago, or I should say more than a couple of years ago, I did find a community that is doing the research, like doctors, scientists who are, who are sort of changing the game.

addiction and the 12-step program, modernizing it a little bit, that felt good and it felt right and finally he got the help he needed and finally I got the help that I needed. So you know that that's the addiction side which just so naturally fits with the music and entertainment side because my experience in that industry is just that you know

Kim Rapach (29:24.256)
Yeah.

Kristin (29:42.047)
We've got all these artists who have the talent, they have the drive, they have that deep seated belief that this is their purpose and this is what they're supposed to do. But then they get caught up. They get caught up in all the substances. And I mean substances, I don't even just mean alcohol or drugs. I mean like sex addiction. Sex addiction is the new drug. It is destroying families and people and...

And it's, there's so much shame in around it that people don't really get help. And that's where I find that like, that's where I I'm pretty vocal. I don't know if you've, you've seen some of the stuff that I talk about, but I talk about it because somebody has to, you know, like everybody, we have one life. And I just, I believe everybody is worthy of living a beautiful full life.

Kim Rapach (30:24.384)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Rapach (30:29.822)
Yeah.

Kristin (30:40.767)
they often just don't know how or where to start. Yeah.

Kim Rapach (30:43.998)
Yeah, well, and I think, you know, like you said, you're talking about two very important roadblocks to people being well, three, you know, one is to work through the shame, like the shame keeps you silent, right? So you don't ask for care. Then once maybe the addiction or the behavior, the, you know, depression, anxiety, whatever gets bad enough, and you do speak up, and you need help. It's so hard to find.

Kristin (30:51.796)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (31:12.349)
it is.

Kim Rapach (31:12.778)
Right. It's so hard to find our traditional system is broken. That's one thing that I'm very vocal about. And it is, you know, then you have an industry that is, well, I guess I'm going to say a fourth thing, you have an industry that's feeding drugs, alcohol, you know, pampering people, putting cocaine in front of them, putting, you know,

Kristin (31:17.128)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Rapach (31:36.626)
sex in front of them, all these opportunities that are in time. And here's the fourth thing that our whole culture somehow has deemed as that's when, especially men have known they've made it. But now it's everybody. Like if you've got, you know, the sex, you've got the drugs, you've got the money, you've made it. Oh, but we're not talking about how we're actually killing you. It's devastating.

Kristin (31:36.757)
ever.

Kristin (31:59.723)
Yeah.

It is. It is. It's like, you know, these people have chosen this, this life and this career, and they need to be able to do this till the end. And the only way they're going to be able to sustain that is if they're taking care of themselves. And, um, like my practice is built around the holistic model of, you know, mind, body, and soul alignment. Um,

Kim Rapach (32:04.554)
Oh, just, yeah.

Kristin (32:32.463)
which sometimes people think is hokey, but I only work with people who are open to that idea, because I believe that if your mind, body and soul are healthy and aligned, then that's when you're going to be living your most authentic, beautiful life. When one thing is out of alignment, that's kind of when chaos ensues, right? Like that's when you feel like life is out of control, and sometimes people don't know what it is or why, but

To be able to coach people into finding their alignment is just, like that's what's gonna take them to the end. And not just in the music or entertainment industry, in life, everybody.

Kim Rapach (33:10.498)
Yeah, yeah.

Kim Rapach (33:14.91)
Yeah, everybody. Yeah. Yeah, you and I work with artists, but we're champion for everyone.

Kristin (33:23.631)
Yeah, I work with artists, I work with partners of artists as well. And then I also work with partners of, I work with quite a few partners of addicts, educating them on what is abuse and what isn't. Because unfortunately, a lot of people who battle substance abuse are abusive in their intimate relationships. It's just kind of like...

part for the course, I guess, you know, addicts, they need to protect the one thing that's sustaining them, which is their addiction. So how do you do that? You lie, you manipulate, you gaslight, you know, and there's always someone on the other end taking the brunt of that. So part of all of, I guess, what I'm doing is just, it's education as well, you know?

Kim Rapach (34:18.486)
Yeah. Yeah, and I appreciate your sharing your personal experience. I've learned enough over the years, I think those of us who wanna help are helping from a place of where we've been. Right? Like I help artists who experience emotional darkness because that's where I've been. And we wanna help. So knowing...

Kristin (34:27.795)
Yes.

Kristin (34:34.571)
Yes.

Yeah.

Kim Rapach (34:38.142)
knowing you, you know, to the extent that I do, knowing that there probably was a very personal piece to that. And so I'm just grateful that you're using that to bring back into the world. And, you know, it's, it's like a celebration, right? When you. Yeah. When you're in recovery of, I think we're all in recovery, by the way. I think everyone, every human, we're all in some stage of recovery, whether we know it or not. And those of us doing like our deep work or inner work.

Kristin (34:44.276)
Yeah.

Kristin (34:52.791)
It's like offering hope.

Kristin (34:58.667)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Rapach (35:07.966)
are in recovery from something. And so I guess, yeah, it's ongoing. And I just talked to somebody today and he's like, I've been doing this for 26 years and I just had another awakening this summer. Like it's just evolution, right? But what I'm wondering is what do you do, right? What do you do on a regular basis?

Kristin (35:10.763)
Yeah, forever. Yeah.

Kristin (35:23.945)
Yes.

Kim Rapach (35:33.494)
to live your best life to make sure that you don't get out of alignment. And I'm sure I know we don't always stay there. Like I know you probably get out of alignment, but how do you get right back on? Like, I just want to be clear. We are not perfect. You know, I tell my clients like, I did this for a living there. You know, they'll say like, well, I can't say it like you do. Well, I do this for a living and I can't, I don't always say it right. I don't always do it right. I'm not always regulated, but I know how to get back.

Kristin (35:33.742)
Hmm.

Kristin (35:42.692)
Yeah.

Kristin (35:58.254)
Oh, I know.

Kim Rapach (35:59.762)
Right? We have this center we get back to. How do you get back to your alignment?

Kristin (36:03.391)
How do I get back to my center? It's a really great question. So I use the terminology that I strive to have exquisite self-care. My self-care has changed over the years. I used to be a little bit of a workaholic, well, living that double life, right? Working for national security and working in the music industry where you've got...

Kim Rapach (36:17.128)
Mm.

Kristin (36:32.631)
people who depend on you for their livelihood, you know, I would, um, I burnt out. That's the, that's the honest truth is that I realized that my, come my compulsive need to be busy all the time was actually, um, a very huge red flag that I was dealing with an anxiety issue. And when you're in, when you have an anxiety problem,

Kim Rapach (36:56.286)
Yeah, wow.

Kristin (37:01.983)
Compulsive planning puts you in the control seat, right? You know what's coming. And once I was able to realize that, I was able to slow down a little bit, re-prioritize, look at all the relationships in my life. And I used to be the type of person that, like people would joke that I was like a collector of people, that I just love people. So I would just surround my, like I met you, you were my friend.

You know, like that's just the way it was. But then I started looking around the people closest to me and really taking stock of who was good for me and who wasn't, who was maybe a friendship, you know, that should have died a long time ago. And I kind of went inside. I do believe that, I do believe in the power of coaching. So I always have a coach. I recently just...

ended a relationship with a coach that I had because.

Kristin (38:07.571)
We coach and think differently. So he had different training than I did, which was fine, but we had different belief systems. And I realized very quickly, I was like, he wasn't really helping me. So I am in search of a new one. I have an interview next week, but coaching is a big way for me to keep myself accountable. And then you might laugh at this, but I've learned to listen to my body.

If my body is telling me I need to sleep or just shut it down, and I mean like not for a day or two, but for like a week or a month, I will do that. Like I will go inside and kind of quiet the world and I'll read and I'll journal. I'll walk my dog. I wish I could say I was huge into exercise and like a CrossFit maniac and everything, but that's just not who I am. Like I love nature.

I love walking, I love swimming. And I just try to do all the things that my, like ultimately our souls tell us what we need, you know? If we're able to be quiet enough, our souls will tell us what it is that we need. And that's just what I've been trying to focus on. I have to, right? We have to be so that we can show up for our clients in an aligned manner and hold that space for them.

Kim Rapach (39:36.35)
Yeah. And I know that it is, you know, it's a foreign concept for many, even people who are billionaires, right? To hear the words, listen to your body, right? But that is everything. That is probably the biggest gift that I ever got through coaching was understanding that mind, body, spirit,

Kristin (39:48.971)
Bye.

Kristin (39:59.894)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (40:03.506)
and learning to trust myself. But first, before you can trust it, you have to actually slow down and listen. And I use it all the time. I feel like it's like, is this a hell yes or a hell no? And if somebody comes across my Instagram feed and I feel this like, un-follow, I'm not looking at who you are. I'm not going to feel bad. I don't have loyalty. It used to be loyalty for me. I think you've wrestled with, too. Loyalty has really burned me.

Kristin (40:09.023)
Yeah. Yes.

Kristin (40:29.148)
Yes.

Kim Rapach (40:33.206)
But listening to your body is such a gift. We have a nervous system that is holding everything that we've been through, holding all that we desire, and we can only find what is true if we are present and listening. You know, I always say attune, self attune first. You know, I don't know what my mom's, no. What are you saying? What is your gut telling you? What is your inner pilot light telling you?

Kristin (40:37.629)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (40:46.795)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (40:51.511)
Yeah.

Kristin (40:55.796)
Oh, yeah.

Kim Rapach (40:59.25)
And so, oh, I would never laugh at that. Mm-mm, that is gold.

Kristin (41:02.027)
Yeah, yeah, I do think that, you know, someone, trying to remember, it doesn't matter who it was. But I had, I had done an Instagram live where I was talking about just this and just how, how it's okay to really shut down and, and sleep if you need to sleep and someone commented.

I was depressed for 36 years and I spent eight months in bed and I've never been healthier. It was like she needed a complete reset. And I don't know what her trauma was that where she needed that, but how beautiful that she recognized it and came out of it. And that's, yeah, that's why I just, you know, I laugh at myself because I also have to be accountable and say,

Kim Rapach (41:39.615)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (41:46.188)
Yeah.

Kristin (41:54.239)
All right, Kristen, you know, you can't just stay in bed, you know, like, you know, get up and walk in. There is a balance there, but I think you understand my point of, have a rest.

Kim Rapach (42:01.098)
Yeah, I do. And I think you also said it perfectly when you listen. Like I literally just had this conversation with a client yesterday who said, you know, I'm so exhausted. I just want to go back to bed.

And I was like, can you get quiet, put your hand on your heart, your other hand on your belly, and can you just listen? Is this more of a stress or trauma response where you don't wanna deal with life and you need to not face it? Or is this true exhaustion? And either way, you're not wrong. Even if you decide like, yeah, I can't deal with it and I need to go back to bed, hey, guess what, that's okay too. But your nervous system, there's so much shame around.

Kristin (42:39.051)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (42:43.794)
lethargy and lack of motivation and lack of energy. But yet at the same time, we're running at such a pace, especially in this industry, people are running at such a pace and then they feel bad when they have to rest or take a nap in the middle of the day or for a week. It's like, that's your nervous system needing to reset. It's human.

Kristin (42:49.238)
Yeah.

Kristin (43:02.419)
Yeah, and yes, and people forget, they forget that human beings weren't built to be this overstimulated consistently every day. Most people work on the computer every day, and then it's Netflix, and then it's video games, and it is a mental exhaustion that we've never seen in history before. Like, it is like we...

Kim Rapach (43:13.686)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (43:26.431)
Yeah.

Kristin (43:28.967)
we can adapt and we can move forward and we can embrace technology, but we'll never be able to run away from our humanity. And we are always going to have to come back to that to be healthy. Right. And I'm not saying we need to cut, cut out all the fun stuff and computers and everything, but I do think there needs to be more education on, on our, you know, basic humanity and what our body and mind and soul need.

Kim Rapach (43:38.782)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kim Rapach (43:46.443)
Right.

Kim Rapach (43:54.83)
Mm-hmm, yeah, and having that, I think, self-attunement and having that compassion. I think of touring artists, right? Or people who are on set for three months or a year. And it's 20 hours a day and it's go, party, work, work. And then for families, artists who have families who are reentering, whether they're on the road with them or not, when they reenter, they're such, I think, a jolt.

Kristin (44:01.169)
Yeah.

Yes.

Kim Rapach (44:24.278)
to the nervous system and to the belief system even. Like that reentry is hard and we don't talk about that. You know, I'll go away for the weekend and come back and my friends will be like, how was the reentry? Like, we just make that normal conversation because even in the simplest of terms, coming in and out of your family can be really tricky for everybody.

Kristin (44:30.572)
Yeah.

Kristin (44:37.439)
Yeah.

Kristin (44:44.415)
for everybody. Yeah, I just actually interviewed a young man who's the son of one of Canada's most beloved guitar players. He was in the, do the Tragically Hip, do you know the Tragically Hip? Okay, you and I need to sit down and I need to educate you on some good Canadian music. This is-

Kim Rapach (45:01.862)
I don't. You need...

Kim Rapach (45:09.014)
You need to send me a good playlist.

Kristin (45:11.059)
this is where you and I are gonna be good for each other too. You can educate me on some bands that you love. But he said the most crazy thing. He said, I asked him, what was it like growing up with one of the most famous fathers in Canada? And he kind of shrugged it off a bit. He said, well, as a kid, didn't really know too much. But then as he got older, he said, there was about 10 years where...

Kim Rapach (45:16.813)
Sure.

Kristin (45:39.199)
His dad was only home for maybe two or three weeks a year. And it just, it shocked me because, well, he didn't seem to really realize that that's a big deal, you know? And then it was an interview and not a coaching session. So I wasn't about to coach him into, well, how did that feel? And how do you feel now? And what's, you know? But it really did shock me that, you know, the children.

Kim Rapach (46:00.756)
Sure.

Kristin (46:08.623)
It affects the whole family, like these artists who decide to pursue this life choice and this career. The whole family is affected by it. And it could be easier if the support was there. These record labels and these like, you know, studios were offering support. It could change the entire industry.

Kim Rapach (46:21.293)
Right.

Kim Rapach (46:32.286)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we live in a world where trauma is just now, we're just now starting to understand it and we're becoming a more trauma informed society, but it's still, I think a lot of false narrative is that it's just a buzzword.

Kristin (46:34.11)
Yeah.

Kristin (46:52.853)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (46:53.186)
And I think it's so important that people understand, you know, it's kind of like we were talking about mind, body, spirit, like understanding the experiences that they've had that impact them. That's again, something all of us could benefit from and understanding the nervous system, understanding your belief systems, learning what your values are, what your boundaries are.

Kristin (47:16.583)
Yeah, oh my gosh, boundaries. So you had asked me, and I think I accidentally skipped over it, but when I was going through everything with my husband, like when I was in the depths of despair, to put it bluntly, it was bad. I had three very young children. I felt alone.

Kim Rapach (47:19.079)
Ehh, shut up.

Kristin (47:43.339)
I had, I wish I had, I didn't have anybody to talk to because the response back I would always get is you need to pray more. You need, you know, and it was just, I knew that wasn't it. And one day I just met this literal, literal earth angel and it's actually a cute funny story if I can tell it quickly. Okay. So I woke up.

Kim Rapach (48:06.326)
You don't even have to be quick, just tell it.

Kristin (48:10.195)
I woke up in the morning and I was supposed to take my son to this play date. So this woman had reached out to me and said, our, our kids are really close. Can you, you know, why don't it's time we meet, why don't you come for coffee and bring, bring your, bring your son and they can play and we'll have a coffee. Well, I woke up in the morning and I, it was, it was after a very difficult night, very, you know, um, you know, he was in the throes of addiction at that point. So it was just,

You know, I had like bags under my eyes and I didn't want to cancel because it was Simon, you know, my buddy, my middle guy. And I pushed through and I literally, I think I showed up in my PJs, like bun on the top of my head. And we, she coincidentally lived on the street behind me. So I, we walk over, ring the doorbell and the door flies open. And there she is standing, one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life.

hair blowing in the wind and I just remember thinking shit sorry I don't know I guess if that's gonna be bleeped out here but I was just

Kim Rapach (49:19.239)
No, just be yourself.

Kristin (49:22.007)
Well, I won't be myself because I had a lot of, in my inner cursing was just like, are you kidding me? Like why didn't I put any effort into this? So she was the warmest, most gentle, beautiful woman. And within five minutes of her putting a coffee in my hand, I had just broke down and she sat cross-legged in front of me on the floor and held me in the space that I had never been held in before.

and she was a coach. She had just left her job in the government to open her own coaching business and.

It was the first time in my whole life I felt like there was hope for me. She took me from this, the spot where I was, the only reason I wasn't taking my life was my children. I couldn't leave them, you know? And, and she just became a friend to me in a way that I had never really had a friend before. And then,

She invited me away on this retreat weekend that she was putting on and she was so fantastic. I was like broke. You know, I think I was off work at that time because my son had he had to have brain surgery. So I had to stay home and I know just another crazy. And she said, you know, even if you can't afford it, I want you to come. I want you to come. And that retreat changed my life. Changed my whole life. I learned about boundaries.

Kim Rapach (50:48.834)
Wow.

Kristin (50:52.855)
I had never learned about boundaries. I didn't know I had the right to set them. I didn't even know what they were. And then I hired her as my coach after that weekend and we worked together for about a year. And I remember at the end of that year, she said, she said, I'm being called, like I'm being pulled to something bigger and I'm gonna open my own academy and I'm gonna train coaches that will change the world for generations to come.

And she said, I want you to work with me. So I ended up actually getting my coaching diploma through her school. It was a year long intensive program, but life changing. Yeah, so I'm sorry to go on that tangent, but that's how I became, that's really what drew me into coaching.

Kristin (51:48.415)
Yes, sorry, you're gonna have to edit that awkward part out. My brain is just going a million miles.

Kim Rapach (51:52.179)
I don't think so.

No, I think it's so powerful. And I think that's what people don't realize we, and again, looking at traditional mental health, it doesn't give people a lot of hope because you can be in talk therapy for 20 years. And if you don't understand the holistic piece, you're not gonna make a lot of changes, right? And so to share that story,

Kristin (52:04.003)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (52:08.096)
I know.

Kristin (52:20.235)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (52:20.914)
I think is really important. And also, we talk about being self-attuned, the fact that you were so emotionally broken and have this woman show up who'd also left the government to be a coach. Like, that's not an accident.

Kristin (52:23.601)
Yeah.

Kristin (52:36.575)
I know. Yeah. And her husband was also a recovered addict. Yeah, so I just got goosebumps again. I haven't actually talked about this story in a while. But but I left her house and I went home and cornered my husband and said, I just met an angel and I have hope for the first time in

Kim Rapach (52:44.722)
Wow! Yeah.

Kim Rapach (52:50.56)
Yeah.

Kristin (53:03.695)
in 10 years and I'm going on this weekend. Like I didn't even give him a choice. Like I'm going, you know, call your parents if you need help. And it was me demanding what I needed for the first time, you know, and it was the best decision I ever made. And the one that, oh, you're so, so are you. You know, I just think everybody has.

Kim Rapach (53:18.886)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (53:22.315)
That's so beautiful because now you're changing lives. You're the angel.

Kristin (53:32.511)
this power to help people. They often just, you know, I say that the biggest gift you can give anybody is to just hold that space for them and not have a fix it mentality. Like don't be running over what you're gonna, what advice you're gonna give them and what you think they need. And that's the difference between therapy and coaching. That's why people can be in therapy for 20 years and not progress. Often,

therapy is trauma-based and often the therapist will be looking at their client as they're broken or they're damaged and we need to reach in and figure out why and what and pull it out. Whereas coaching is nothing about you is broken. You are a whole, capable, resourceful person and all you need to do is be reminded of that.

Kim Rapach (54:20.334)
Absolutely.

Kristin (54:28.648)
And sometimes it is a lot of talking, but it's a lot of reflecting back to them, their wholeness. Does that make sense?

Kim Rapach (54:37.322)
Yeah, absolutely. And again, back to the bus at the very beginning, you are who you say you are. So if I can come to you and I can say, this is who I want to be, this is who I long to be, and then you hold that space with me and you keep pointing me in that direction, you keep reminding me, and I get to be whoever I say I want to be.

Kristin (54:45.547)
You are who you see you are.

Kristin (54:53.036)
Mm.

Kristin (55:04.595)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Rapach (55:04.798)
Whereas the mental health system does focus on what's wrong. It's an illness. You're broken. There's, you know, and yeah, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole, but I'd like the wellness piece. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

Kristin (55:16.831)
Yeah, because I would never want to just read therapy. Like, I've been in therapy. There's a place for therapy, for sure. I just think there's not enough education over coaching, like the difference between coaching and therapy. A lot of people seek therapy when they actually just, they need a coach, you know? Yeah.

Kim Rapach (55:34.782)
Yeah, right. Yeah. And I think, yeah, I also think, like you said, there's a very appropriate, like, I don't know where I would be without my first therapist. That was what I needed at that time. And then fast forward, you know, 20 years when I worked with my coach, who is trauma-informed, but coaching, it is, it's just more holistic, it's different, it's just a different, there's just a different perspective of,

Kristin (55:49.264)
Oh, yeah.

Kristin (55:56.435)
Mm.

Kim Rapach (56:04.79)
wellness and wholeness and future and vision and stepping into your true authentic self instead of only you know or instead of looking at things as if they're broken. You know you and I both shared the same story on our Instagram after you taught me how to do it. But where Hardy is getting care for his anxiety after a near death

Kristin (56:07.147)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (56:17.717)
Yeah.

Kristin (56:28.951)
Nice.

Kim Rapach (56:33.654)
bus accident last year. And I'm just so proud of him because, you know, and I don't know if you read, you know, my caption, but like, we're gonna tend to look at that, like, oh, Hardy has mental health issues. No, nope. Hardy is a human who had a near death experience that landed in his body that is still hijacking his nervous system, even though.

Kristin (56:40.799)
Yes, it was beautiful.

Kim Rapach (56:58.162)
He knows he's okay. And he needs care to figure out how to regulate his very human nervous system, right? Like look at it from a lens of wellness and wholeness and humanity as opposed to illness and brokenness.

Kristin (56:59.751)
Yeah.

Kristin (57:05.002)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (57:14.899)
Yeah, I'm so, I don't even know him, but I think I, when I reposted, I said, I'm so proud of you because it's these people who are so in the spotlight and when they're brave and vulnerable, it gives other people that freedom to do the same, you know, and that's where change is gonna ripple. And that's what we need is we need people to feel more.

Kim Rapach (57:23.007)
Yes.

Kristin (57:44.843)
comfortable to come out and say I'm struggling, I'm gonna take a breath here and I'll be back. You know?

Kim Rapach (57:49.254)
Right. Yeah, yeah. Because that's, I mean, I think of how that translates into being a mom, like every day, especially when my son was little, I had to say, I need a break. I'll be back.

Kristin (57:59.904)
Oh, it's.

Kristin (58:06.219)
Mm.

Kim Rapach (58:08.066)
But again, the guilt and shame are like, nope, you should just be able to muscle through and power up and be super mom. And we have that no matter what we're doing in life. And I think, like you said, we need to be honest and we need to talk about the human experience from a place of wholeness as opposed to if you're not perfect, if you can't keep it all together, there must be something wrong with you because that is a lie.

Kristin (58:16.864)
Yeah.

Kristin (58:27.895)
broken.

Kristin (58:34.663)
It is. Yeah, it is. And like, you know, when I and I know you feel the same way when you when you see artists in the spotlight. Their struggles are often glamorized and they're used to make money, you know, and I'm thinking of Britney Spears right now. And can you just imagine how different her life would be if she had been surrounded by people?

who loved her and supported her and had her best interests at heart and held her whole and like walked beside her and not in front of her, you know, and when I see these images of her right now and I just, I pray for her, I know that sounds cheesy, but I'm like, I literally, you know, meditate, I send her so much because I just, I don't wanna see that anymore.

Kim Rapach (59:12.781)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (59:23.128)
No.

Kristin (59:32.027)
I think we are evolved as a civilization now that this needs to stop. And that there is help out there. It's just a matter of, I don't know, what is it a matter of? More people like us becoming more accessible? Like I don't know.

Kim Rapach (59:50.098)
I think it's creating a different world through wellness. I think, you know, it's not just we work in the, you know, the music industry or the entertainment industry. We're doing this for all of humanity, right? Because, you know, my perspective is, you know, when artists are well, we all win. If we can bring wellness to the entertainment industry, we can bring wellness to the world because there is such a large platform.

But take all that out of there when we're well, when I'm well, when you're well. Your family is better. Your friends are better. You know, your clients are better. Like there's just such a ripple effect. And we still have so much abuse and addiction and toxicity and dysfunction that's still happening across all.

demographics across all industries, across all families, and, you know, everywhere. And so I just think that's where my passion comes from is when we heal ourselves, we heal the world.

Kristin (01:00:56.927)
Yeah. It starts at home, right?

Kim Rapach (01:00:59.442)
It does. Yeah, I always say the world needs healing and my contribution is I'll take care of me.

Kristin (01:01:01.559)
to do.

Kristin (01:01:08.295)
Yeah, I love that.

Kim Rapach (01:01:09.706)
And if I don't start there, you know, and, you know, you were talking about, you know, your burnout, and you know, a bit of my story, that's what happened to me. You know, I was a successful therapist with a successful practice until I burned out and found myself in a very dark place, and questioning my very existence. And I don't ever want to feel that again, I know that I can't guarantee that I won't.

but I feel from doing more coaching, doing that inner healing, working on my own trauma, I get to hold the balance of gratitude. I have gratitude for everything that's going my way, and I have resiliency for everything that's not. Whereas before, I had to take care of all the people, I had to stay in control, I had to make sure all my clients were happy and make sure my family was happy. And I was just getting further and further left behind by my own doing. Until...

Kristin (01:01:52.567)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (01:02:06.205)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (01:02:08.05)
I had very little left. And that's where my passion for helping other people comes from is you have to fight for yourself first.

Kristin (01:02:17.247)
Yes, we just were never taught that really. And it's something that is learned. I have a question for you. What is your like biggest dream for your business? Like where would you like it to end up one day?

Kim Rapach (01:02:21.599)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (01:02:27.319)
What's up?

Kim Rapach (01:02:34.23)
Hmm

Kim Rapach (01:02:38.458)
So my biggest dream is I have a quasi luxury slash super comfortable, low key sweatpants retreat center. Maybe I don't know if you need your luxury sweatpants, I don't know. But like a retreat center near the mountains and the lake where artists can come and be seen and relaxed and

seen and taken care of, but not pampered and doted on. Like served from a place of authentic care and concern. Like authentic care and concern goes into your food. I mean, a lot of artists, they have all the things.

Kristin (01:03:13.78)
Mm.

Kim Rapach (01:03:31.294)
And so I want to be able to serve from a place of compassion, authentic conversation around a bonfire, um, really pouring into people, having yoga and, you know, maybe a chiropractor or massage therapy, but everything is wellness integrated and not, like you said, your self care has changed over the years, not wellness as things we're going to mark off the list, but wellness from people who have

struggled who are now doing their work, where we can feel that collective energy. So people can have more hope and they are you know, especially for artists to be able to have a place where they are not. We're not about the art as much as the person and their soul.

Kristin (01:04:01.76)
Mm-hmm.

Kristin (01:04:19.643)
Yeah, like a holistic respite retreat where they can disconnect, not be like we're private, not, yeah, I love that. I think that's my dream too. Why do you have to live in the US? Why can't you be in Canada?

Kim Rapach (01:04:23.667)
Yeah. Yes.

Kim Rapach (01:04:30.314)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (01:04:38.29)
I'm not opposed to Canada. Well, I told you we have to start with a retreat. We have to do a retreat in Canada and I'm all about it. Don't think I haven't already started researching. I may have told my husband like, I'm gonna do a retreat in Canada with this woman. Her name's Kristen. She just doesn't know it yet.

Kristin (01:04:39.219)
Can't we do this together? Maybe there's something here.

Kristin (01:04:46.024)
Yeah.

Kristin (01:04:50.804)
Yeah.

Kristin (01:04:59.153)
Oh, I mean that would be amazing. I think you, did you see that I had gone away to a retreat? Yeah, and it was burned down by wildfires.

Kim Rapach (01:05:10.252)
Yes. Like, right after you were there. Wow.

Kristin (01:05:13.771)
Less than a week. Less than a week. I got really lucky and I, yeah, you know, I do believe everything happens for a reason. I had planned this trip and then I was leaving the resort, the yoga resort. I was leaving there to go pick a friend up in Vancouver. But had I not committed to picking her up at the airport, I probably would have stayed because I just didn't want to leave.

It was so beautiful. And it was very similar to what you were talking about. Like the food, oh, like just, it was all, it was just, they're all chefs, you know, but it was like healthy, delicious food, yoga, meditation, paddle boarding, whitewater rafting, which I did, I even jumped off a cliff and I have a fear of heights. But it was just so soul-filling that

Kim Rapach (01:06:08.61)
Wow.

Kristin (01:06:12.111)
I was already talking to the owners. I said, I'd like to book two weeks here next summer. I'd want to do two different retreats. And now, yeah, 40 years of work gone, but they are, I think they've raised about at least half or close to half of what they need to, to rebuild. But there's so many more of these types of places, you know, in the mountains. But yeah, I love that dream. I love that dream.

Kim Rapach (01:06:29.618)
Okay. Sure.

Kim Rapach (01:06:35.75)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (01:06:40.926)
Yeah. So you said you too, anything else that you have a dream that you like when I when I think of my dream, like when I write down my manifestation statements, if you will, one of them is always I'm having, you know, we are having a positive impact on the entertainment industry. And lives are changing lives are being saved. Because ultimately, my greatest passion is to end celebrity suicide.

simply, not simply, but because we have such a false narrative about what success gives us, and it's killing people. Yeah, what about you? What is, in addition to a retreat center, is there another goal, dream, vision?

Kristin (01:07:18.975)
Yeah.

Kristin (01:07:26.167)
I mean, all the same things as you really. I would love one day, I don't know, this isn't like the ultimate goal, but I would really love one day to go on the road with a successful band and like see the world and support the entire.

band and crew at the same time through sobriety meetings, meditations, one-on-one coaching. And like to me that would just be the dream. Like to see the world, to be a part of the music, to be a part of everything and helping people all at the same time. I can't think of anything else that would, you know, that would just be, I'd be like, well, I've made it.

Kim Rapach (01:08:21.421)
Hehehehehehe

Kristin (01:08:24.535)
I mean, not that it's all about making it, but you know what I mean. It's a dream, you know, when you talk about having dreams. I think that would be pretty cool. Yeah, have you? Yeah.

Kim Rapach (01:08:26.884)
Sure, I do, I do.

Kim Rapach (01:08:32.982)
I have dreamt about that, traveling. Yeah, I just, I'm always like, okay, well, as with you, it'll be after there are no children in the home and I have to figure out a way, you know, my husband and I work really well together. And so we're always dreaming that kind of stuff together. So, you know, like what role would you play and how could you serve people? And, you know, just looking at the gifts that we have and, you know, there's nothing better than being generous too.

Kristin (01:08:42.879)
Yeah, yeah.

Kristin (01:08:51.295)
I love it.

Kim Rapach (01:09:02.91)
and just playing around with it and dreaming, just casting vision, so yeah.

Kristin (01:09:07.307)
You have to dream, right? And that's what I tell my clients. And at the end of almost every interview I do, I ask like, what is your biggest, boldest dream for your life? To the point if you were sitting beside a really small-minded person, you'd actually feel silly telling them. Because if you have that dream in you, that's connected to your purpose.

Kim Rapach (01:09:25.387)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (01:09:30.142)
Yes, I fully believe that. Yeah.

Kristin (01:09:32.787)
you know, and no one's actually asked me back what mine was. So I do need to put some thought into that, but that is one I actually, I've had an actual, I've had several like physical dreams while I'm sleeping that I'm sitting on a big like blanket that looks like covered in mandalas with tea and candles looking at Bruce Springsteen.

Kristin (01:10:03.571)
saying I'm trying to manifest this, but that's sort of where I give my brain permission to dream is like, how cool would that be, you know, to be having this otherworldly experience talking about spirituality and meditation and doing yoga together and

Kim Rapach (01:10:13.226)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (01:10:23.314)
Yeah, yes, yeah. And I think we need to normalize that conversation as well, right? To have dreams and to think big and to know the world is big and open and you can, if you prefer staying home with your tea under a snuggly blanket, that is amazing. If you want to be traveling the world and flying on private jets, that's amazing. But make sure it's what you want.

Kristin (01:10:29.109)
Yeah.

Kim Rapach (01:10:51.59)
and not something that someone else is telling you that you should want and not something that your old memory or an old voice of someone who may not even be in your life anymore told you that you could or could, you know, you should do or you could not have. Or back to that, like, what do you dream about? What do you want? So, I'm going to go ahead and start with this one.

Kristin (01:11:09.499)
Yeah, yeah, it's so important to keep dreaming.

Kim Rapach (01:11:11.499)
Yeah.

Yeah, what is your, you do a lot of Instagram lives. What is your purpose for those? What do you hope people glean from those?

Kristin (01:11:24.755)
Yeah, it's a good question. I kind of fell back into it. So like I was sharing earlier, my whole music career started with this music magazine, right? And interviewing. It was a very natural thing to start doing when I realized Instagram had this live feature and the support I was getting from the Canadian music industry was just so overwhelming. I had a few...

people reach out and say, I love what you're doing. I, I've struggled with mental health, or my mom was an addict, or my, you know, and I'd love to talk to you. And I'd love to share to inspire others. And that's how it started. And I didn't even have to go and seek out the first interviews, they just started coming to me. And I'm a really big believer that you can't run from what's meant for you. Right?

But it has been stretchy, Kim, because I am an introvert. I do not like being in the spotlight, which is probably why I never became a musician myself. I really like being on the sidelines watching, but it's just snowballed. And I'm gaining more confidence, but when I get nervous, I do stutter. So that's been something I've had to work on.

But like you started with, you started this call with saying people want authenticity. And I mean, I'm just me, I'm not a journalist.

Kim Rapach (01:13:03.414)
But you are, honey, you are who you say you are. So who are you?

Kristin (01:13:09.323)
Oh. Well, I just got goosebumps again. Um, well, who am I? Um, hmm.

Kim Rapach (01:13:10.318)
Who are you?

Kristin (01:13:25.051)
Well, I am, you know, I'm so many things, but ultimately I just, I'm a, I believe I'm a spiritual being, you know, and I'm, I'm just here for a short time on earth and just trying to.

like live my purpose and figure and I and I think that it can change. You know, I think that um you know all the jobs that I've had you know at one point felt like this is this is why I'm here you know and I just think that I need to like continually grow and strive and evolve and you know aside from the easy answers of I'm a mother you know I'm a coach

You know, I'm a music lover. I'm just me. And that's a really good question. You put me on the spot there.

Kristin (01:14:28.607)
I'm figuring it out, you know?

Kim Rapach (01:14:30.23)
Yeah, just keep stepping into your power.

Kristin (01:14:33.575)
Yeah, I mean, you know, I got a tattoo. Did I tell you that? Yeah. So my first, can you see it? It's the mountains. It's out in Banff area. And then it's got my, it's like a compass. It's got my kid's initials around it. But when you ask me like, who are you? I'm now sort of giving myself permission to really express that because, you know.

Kim Rapach (01:14:36.386)
No, did you? What does it say? It's beautiful. Is it the mountains?

Kim Rapach (01:14:51.35)
That's so cool.

Kristin (01:15:02.899)
I wasn't even allowed to get a nose ring when I was a kid. I waited till I was 37. I'm now 43 and I got a tattoo and I'm not stopping because I love it. So I've got a sleeve booked. And everyone's like, are you nuts? Is she having a midlife crisis? And I'm saying, no, I actually think for the first time I'm able to honor and say, no, this is what I wanna do. This is who I am and I'm expressing it.

Kim Rapach (01:15:14.67)
Nice.

Kim Rapach (01:15:18.99)
Hahaha

Kim Rapach (01:15:29.322)
Yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, I mean, we could probably go on another hour. Is she having a midlife crisis? Right? How, how old is that term and how well did that serve women who come into their forties, who finally start waking up and like owning their bodies and their minds and their sensuality and their dreams and their visions and their entrepreneurial ship and midlife crisis or authenticity. There's that.

Kristin (01:15:33.395)
Yeah. Is she out?

Kristin (01:15:58.147)
Or am I just finally caring so little about what other people think that I'm honoring who I am?

Kim Rapach (01:16:03.56)
Yes.

Kim Rapach (01:16:07.19)
Yes, preach it from the mountains. I love it. I so adore you. I'm so glad that we met. I'm so glad that we became fast friends. I look forward to just having these conversations, bringing more into the social media world, but even more just into each other's lives and.

Kristin (01:16:07.803)
Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

Kristin (01:16:15.859)
Me too.

Kristin (01:16:27.863)
Absolutely.

Kim Rapach (01:16:28.214)
You know, I have a list, I'm like you, I feel so much gratitude for the people I've met that I'm like, okay, well, I have to go to Canada. I have to go to Los Angeles and I really need to get to South Africa because I'm meeting so many amazing people and you are just such a light. And you know, you are like that woman who was the earth angel for you, that's who you are for people that you meet. So.

Kristin (01:16:38.559)
Yeah, yeah. Yes.

Kristin (01:16:47.775)
Oh.

Kristin (01:16:56.339)
Oh, thank you. And you are too. I'm so grateful for this connection. And I don't know what our future together looks like tangibly, but I know we're going to be working together. And I do want to follow through with doing some lives with you. And just keep continuing this conversation on an open platform where people can tune in.

Kim Rapach (01:16:56.583)
Keep being you.

Kim Rapach (01:17:14.347)
Yes.

Kim Rapach (01:17:23.146)
Yeah, thank you for being here. Absolutely.

Kristin (01:17:25.259)
Aw, thanks for having me. Awesome.

Kim Rapach (01:17:30.046)
Okay, so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna stop recording, but don't hop off, because you'll still be here.

Kristin (01:17:33.404)
Okay, okay.